In the second film, Episode II: The Clone Wars, Obi-Won and Anakin are assigned as Jedi security for the threatened Senator Padme Amidala. There is an argument that takes place between Obi-Won and Anakin as the point of their 'true' mission is questioned by Anakin. Obi-Won is set on just acting for security for the Senator while Anakin argues that they should work to catch the threat not just protect the Senator. They are Jedi, better than just security. Previously, this scene seemed to me, to show the
Now, I also think, that the Dark Side is portrayed as stronger. If you'll allow my to elaborate here:
- The Jedi have an entire counsel that sit up in their room and meditate but they don't feel a disturbance in the Force regarding Darth Maul or Darth Sidious
- Or the creation of a clone army
- Or Anakin's dark feelings beginning to grow
- Or Palpatine's intentions in the Senate
- The Jedi have an entire counsel, the Sith have two. The master and the apprentice. (Which actually isn't really true...) Numbers should be in our favor.
- The Jedi feel pain, after anything has happened (Not helpful!)
- A padawan goes bad so you run to seclusion. (Again, that's very helpful, thank you.)
- Feels EVERY disturbance in the Force, we don't have conversations between Siths without mentions of disturbances in the Force
- The Emperor learns of all the plans of the Alliance
- Knows that Luke is a Skywalker
- Knows how to exploit Anakin
- Manipulates Queen and Senator Amidala
- Takes over the Senate without the Jedi batting an eye (HELLO!)
- Now, it has mysteriously overtaken a Jedi (Kylo Ren) without the presence of another Sith (because I don't think that Snoke is a Sith)
Therefore, is the Dark Side stronger, and if not...then PROVE IT! (I would like to add that I'm not saying that the Dark Side can't be overcome, I'm just saying, pattern wise, it looks like it is stronger.)
Okay, as to the question of Jedi running. They do. At least with the new movie that's what we are led to believe. When we left off in Return of the Jedi this was not the case. Luke proved to be the exception when he confronts Vader and faces down the Emperor. But not so now. With the Force Awakens Luke has run away. I've heard a few arguments in his defense and the defense of other Jedi but none of them have satisfied me. Obi-Won ran away to seclusion as did Yoda and they waited in their exile and watched the Empire rise. Now we have Luke, who also ran away and watched evil rise again. I'm sorry, but sitting back is not what Jedi should be doing. (But that doesn't seem to stop them from doing it.) Here are some of the
- They were old (Not when they ran away, okay, Yoda might have been pretty old)
- They are the last ones, what do you want them to do? Go charging into the middle of the battle as the last Jedi? (Umm, that's exactly what Luke did to break the pattern. He was literally, the last Jedi and he allowed himself to be captured and taken to a Death Star that he knew was going to be attack and if possible destroyed.)
*sigh* I'm afraid I was right, this was a rambling and ranting post. I am totally dissatisfied with what the Force Awakens did to Luke. :P
As I have said in pervious posts, I am open for discussion in the comments. :)
To finish up here I guess I should just use the 'supercalifragilisticexpialidocious' term for the Star Wars Universe. (As in: what you say when you don't know what else to say.)
Han shot first.
Yours truly,
Cordy

Han shot first. Yes he did :)
ReplyDeleteAw, I'm sorry you don't like what they did with Luke! Hopefully in the next movie we'll see a lot of father-daughter training/fighting time (sorry if that sounds cheesy :P) that will make up for it. :D
I'm rather confused myself. The only thing I can think of is, Luke was so emotionally tied up in the whole nephew-turns-Dark affair that he couldn't handle the situation in a cool platonic way? I mean, he's already been through so much in his life and now, his sister's son is destroying everything he ever hoped to build up? I know it sounds weird. But sometimes grieving people have clouded judgement . . . Just a thought. Maybe they'll explain more in the next movie!
Oh, I do think the dark side is stronger. That's why the pull on the "good guys", it is so much stronger and they are thirsty for power. :P
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DeleteThe thing for me is it doesn't just affect Luke in my opinion it has changed how I look at the Jedi as a whole. The entire meaning or purpose of them. Haha, I have actually kicked around the idea of Rey being Captain Phasma's daughter. It wouldn't explain how Rey has the Force (although I know you can just be born with it) but I wonder if her parents/family got taken by the First Order it might mean that's her mom. But that's just a theory of course.
Yes, more explaining of any kind in the coming movies would be MOST welcome! Haha.
I brought up that point because Yoda told Luke that wasn't the case. But in every saber battle except four the Dark Side wins. (Dooku beats Yoda, Dooku knocks out Obi-Won, Dooku beats Anakin and Obi-Won together, Anakin kills Windu, Maul kills Qui-Gon, Palpatine beats Yoda, Vader kills Obi-Won, Vader beats Luke.)
Haha, thanks for your comment! This was probably much deeper then you wanted to go with this. :)
Wow, this was a really interesting post, Cordy! I love the points you made.
ReplyDeleteI have read some Star Wars books that are set before Eps. 1 and some that are between Eps. 1 and 2. In those, I think the Jedi are portrayed as a little more proactive, but I agree with your point. Why DO the Jedi seem to be so apathetic at times? They seem to react only when there is no other option; rarely do they ACT.
The light side certainly seems to be usually portrayed as weaker than the dark side (maybe to highlight that "underdog" aspect when the light side actually does win?). It'll be interesting to see if they'll change things up in eps. 8. :)
Haha! Your "Han shot first" statement at the end was funny. I own the 1997 special edition version, and while I was aware of the "controversy", I didn't realize until I looked it up that the edition I watch has the edited version of that scene. So, after reading about it, I think I have to agree. Han shot first. ;)
Seriously, I just want them to do some kind of prevention work. I would like to think that they Force could guide the Jedi and help them make and carry out productive and protective plans in advance to spare some lives! And you're right, there is something to be said for the 'underdog' storyline. I'm worried for eps. 8!
DeleteI had read about the whole 'Han Shot First' argument and didn't think anything of it until I watched the scene and then I totally noticed the difference! Thankfully we have a special set that came out when SW first came to DVD that not only had the new George Lucas editions but had the originals on DVD. So Han can still shoots first for me. (But, really George Lucas?! Don't mess with success!!) :D